Comments on: Bend Bulletin 2.0? http://blog.bendtech.com/2009/04/bend-bulletin-20/ A Grassroots Experiment In Building Central Oregon's Tech Community Fri, 30 Dec 2011 21:11:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Barney Lerten http://blog.bendtech.com/2009/04/bend-bulletin-20/comment-page-1/#comment-212 Barney Lerten Sun, 12 Apr 2009 02:23:04 +0000 http://blog.bendtech.com/?p=712#comment-212 <a href="#comment-211" rel="nofollow">@Robert Kieffer </a> After ALL those promos we've done over the years, our Website didn't appear on your radar? Scary! (FYI, we also now have Twitter feed and Facebook page for the station.) I think we benefit from the paper's pay wall in terms of online comments. As for the threat from new media to TV, it is similar but different from newspapers - after all, broadcasters have depended solely on advertisers, not subscribers, since they started. That said, the financial models are in a state of flux (you could say chaos, crisis) for us as well - in large part because, of course, broadcasters now can provide programming direct to the public, not just through their network affiliates. Tricky situation, and not one I'm about to claim to have the answer for. Our 'delivery trucks' are our transmitters, and the whole switch to both digital and high-definition is pricey indeed. The trick for everyone is to find an acceptable way to make adequate revenue on the Web to still provide good journalism. No one claims to have that answer, but that doesn't mean we're not looking, and trying new things along the way. @Robert Kieffer
After ALL those promos we’ve done over the years, our Website didn’t appear on your radar? Scary! (FYI, we also now have Twitter feed and Facebook page for the station.)
I think we benefit from the paper’s pay wall in terms of online comments.
As for the threat from new media to TV, it is similar but different from newspapers – after all, broadcasters have depended solely on advertisers, not subscribers, since they started.
That said, the financial models are in a state of flux (you could say chaos, crisis) for us as well – in large part because, of course, broadcasters now can provide programming direct to the public, not just through their network affiliates. Tricky situation, and not one I’m about to claim to have the answer for.
Our ‘delivery trucks’ are our transmitters, and the whole switch to both digital and high-definition is pricey indeed. The trick for everyone is to find an acceptable way to make adequate revenue on the Web to still provide good journalism. No one claims to have that answer, but that doesn’t mean we’re not looking, and trying new things along the way.

]]> By: Robert Kieffer http://blog.bendtech.com/2009/04/bend-bulletin-20/comment-page-1/#comment-211 Robert Kieffer Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:40:28 +0000 http://blog.bendtech.com/?p=712#comment-211 <a href="#comment-208" rel="nofollow">@Barney Lerten</a> Thanks for clarifying. I have to confess that today is the first time I've visited the ktvz.com site. I'm sorry to say that local television plays even less of a role in my life than the paper does, thus your website never really showed up on my radar. (As a long-time TiVo fan-boy, I've lost my tolerance for news programs' chronic, "stay tuned for details after the commercial break" ploy.) That said, it does appear that ktvz.com is doing a much better job of providing a social venue for Central Oregonians than the Bulletin. It's also glaringly obvious that the two sites are competing for exactly the same audience... something I completely and inexcusably failed to address in my post. Talk about an oversight! One does wonder about the similarities between television and newspapers and the threat new media poses. Both are high-overhead, high-cost undertakings, with a lot of content that is redundant with what's now online. Thoughts? @Barney Lerten
Thanks for clarifying. I have to confess that today is the first time I’ve visited the ktvz.com site. I’m sorry to say that local television plays even less of a role in my life than the paper does, thus your website never really showed up on my radar. (As a long-time TiVo fan-boy, I’ve lost my tolerance for news programs’ chronic, “stay tuned for details after the commercial break” ploy.)

That said, it does appear that ktvz.com is doing a much better job of providing a social venue for Central Oregonians than the Bulletin. It’s also glaringly obvious that the two sites are competing for exactly the same audience… something I completely and inexcusably failed to address in my post. Talk about an oversight!

One does wonder about the similarities between television and newspapers and the threat new media poses. Both are high-overhead, high-cost undertakings, with a lot of content that is redundant with what’s now online. Thoughts?

]]> By: Barney Lerten http://blog.bendtech.com/2009/04/bend-bulletin-20/comment-page-1/#comment-208 Barney Lerten Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:06:46 +0000 http://blog.bendtech.com/?p=712#comment-208 <a href="#comment-207" rel="nofollow">@Robert Kieffer </a> Gee, I thought the link to my name would be clear I was talking about the article comment system at KTVZ.COM. Sorry about that. We plan to launch a more open-ended (but perhaps a BIT less insanely free-wheeling) High Desert Forum, for folks who already are site regulars to talk about things beyond a news article, and to post photos, videos etc., using KickApps. (I'm no tech, but I work with some pretty good Web folk;-) @Robert Kieffer

Gee, I thought the link to my name would be clear I was talking about the article comment system at KTVZ.COM. Sorry about that. We plan to launch a more open-ended (but perhaps a BIT less insanely free-wheeling) High Desert Forum, for folks who already are site regulars to talk about things beyond a news article, and to post photos, videos etc., using KickApps. (I’m no tech, but I work with some pretty good Web folk;-)

]]> By: Robert Kieffer http://blog.bendtech.com/2009/04/bend-bulletin-20/comment-page-1/#comment-207 Robert Kieffer Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:45:44 +0000 http://blog.bendtech.com/?p=712#comment-207 <a href="#comment-202" rel="nofollow">@Barney Lerten</a>: Forgive my ignorance, but which community are you referring to when you say, "most active online communities"? @Barney Lerten: Forgive my ignorance, but which community are you referring to when you say, “most active online communities”?

]]> By: Ric http://blog.bendtech.com/2009/04/bend-bulletin-20/comment-page-1/#comment-206 Ric Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:03:47 +0000 http://blog.bendtech.com/?p=712#comment-206 I notice that our very own Mark Turner is also weighing in on this topic at the Open Source Bridge, http://opensourcebridge.org/proposals/79 If folks are interested, I heard Jen may be organizing a carpool :-) I notice that our very own Mark Turner is also weighing in on this topic at the Open Source Bridge,

http://opensourcebridge.org/proposals/79

If folks are interested, I heard Jen may be organizing a carpool :-)

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